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Old 08-14-2011, 02:03 PM   #1
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Default Does Canada Really Exist for Canada's sake?

So I was on a conspiracy website late last night and I found a discussion about Canada. They were discussing the whole thing about the official head of state of Canada not being a Canadian - It is the british monarch. The theory went like this:

The monarch of britain is politically neutered, and has been for centuries. However, by the nature of a monarchy, they have the theoretical reserve power to reclaim the powers they have abdicated to the parliament. Additionally, the parliament also has the power to reinstate the powers back into the monarchy it has taken over the years.

Why would either one of these happen? The giant chip on the nation's shoulder which is the U.S. Yes, the brits got a form of revenge for American independence during the War of 1812, but that war ended in a stalemate of sorts. The brits were never able to win back their colony and truly save face.

So here is the theory: At some point the british will make a move out of nationalist pride or other such motivations to retake colonies and conquered peoples that have slipped out of the yokes of british bondage. When the brits make their move on the U.S., they would use the status of the monarch as the head of the Canadian state, cleverly negotiated into the Canadian "independence" paperwork" to reclaim the Canadian territory either outright or by proxy. This territory would give them a perfect launching ground for an attack on the U.S.

Sounds plausible. Is Canada really its own country, existing for the sake of Canadians, or is it a puppet on the strings of the british puppet master, who will pick up those strings and make a move against the U.S. when the whim strikes the puppet master as being right?
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Old 08-14-2011, 02:14 PM   #2
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Aside from the question of how anyone could possibly make a reclamation of an entire country look like an independence treaty long enough to fool the entire government and judiciary of that country, I think the British government would have a hard time finding a monarch who wouldn't abdicate before being a party to something like that. And then you have to imagine the British taking on the might of the US Army on their own territory. They also would not have the support of the British public at this time, or the British military.
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Old 08-14-2011, 02:36 PM   #3
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Graf has the answer to this.
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Actually, I don't think the Canadian constitution would allow a British monarchist takeover. The only province not to have signed the constitutional amendment is, ironically enough, Quebec. So, theoretically, I suppose the Queen could take over Quebec.
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Actually, I don't think the Canadian constitution would allow a British monarchist takeover.
Ha! Then we take it by force! Field Marshal, this calls for... Operation Maple Syrup.
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Old 08-14-2011, 03:04 PM   #6
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A much better question is ,,,,,,,,,,, given the current state of the US, why would the British want it? And we have lot's of Brits here already. So they could actually come live in Canada without having to invoke the Monarchy.
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Right. Sure it does.
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Any conspiracists here to interpret this for me?

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A month after Stephen Harper played host to Prince William and his new bride, Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, the Conservative government will put the word “Royal” back into the country’s land and sea forces.
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Canada exists, I saw it on Sunday evening. It was lovely, and the people waved back, so it seems the inhabitants don't all hate us yet, but we're working on that!
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Canada exists, I saw it on Sunday evening. It was lovely, and the people waved back, so it seems the inhabitants don't all hate us yet, but we're working on that!
No, I think they dislike us...can't imagine why.

I can't say I'd be too disturbed at the fact that we could be conquered. Just kidding. I'd hate to have my passport revoked when it's so new.
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I'd hate to have my passport revoked when it's so new.
You'd get a new one, and on the inside of the front cover it will say, "Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and requires in the Name of Her Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance, and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary."

Which sounds great, until you find the fine print, especially the bit that says, "The possession of a passport does not exempt the holder from compliance with any immigration regulations in force in any territory or from the necessity of obtaining a visa or permit where required."

So much for "pass freely without let or hindrance".
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Interesting observation about a concurrent monarchical stated country, but you've over looked something very important with it's relations to the US, and other countries.

Having a multi-leveled ethnic country like Canada you're going to have to deal as well with the sub cultures more evidently so close with it's cultural primer.

Dealing with Canadians you're also deeply involved with the French, Natives, Asian, Hindi, etc.

They like to have their separate, but collective hands in all pots.


Makes for more crap to deal with, but that's what makes the world go round. Who's holding the monies, and how much they got?
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Hello, Jimmybang, nice of you to join us.

I don't understand what your argument has to do with the discussion. Not that it was a very serious discussion to start with...
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